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Hayley Williams & Kathleen Hanna in the cocoon of music

“Punk rock is meant for everybody.”

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Rebel Girls unite! On March 8, 2025, the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame had the privilege of hosting Kathleen Hanna (Bikini Kill, Julie Ruin, Le Tigre) and Hayley Williams (Paramore) at the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland, Ohio for an intimate conversation about their artistic journeys, the music that has influenced them most, and how music connects us all.

This conversation went on to become the very first episode of our podcast, Music Makes Us and is now being released in-full on video - exclusively for our Substack audience.

Tune in to hear Kathleen and hayley discuss dreaming about Robert Smith of The Cure, why it’s cool to feel jealous of a song, how to pronounce Lil Wayne, the importance of joy in tough times, and more.

Check out more episodes of Music Makes Us featuring Olivia Rodrigo, Joan Jett, Laufey, and more at the link below:

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